Conversation On Duke Street
Produced by Paul McCarthy
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Notes on the Piece
This piece is a personal narrative about a Vietnam veteran
and a college student - myself. It was a challenge to
try to create some kind of unique voice in the onslaught
of media coverage about the war in Afghanistan. I think
in some ways it was successful at doing that, but it
still needs polishing.
This piece originally aired in October, 2001 on Brown Student Radio in Providence, RI - but it was a completely different piece back then. Six months later, Jay proposed that we work together on re-editing the piece, and my first instinct was: no, this piece was so topical, everyone is sick of hearing about the war in Afghanistan. I don't even have the same feelings now that I did then - let's just bury it and forget about it. But then I realized the possibilities that having such distance on a piece of work opened up, and it seemed like a good exercise, even if wouldn't ever hit the airwaves.
I had the perspective on the piece to look back at it in a fresh way, and hear possibilities with the tape that I hadn't heard before. I had enough distance to realize the mistakes I made, and enough distance to try to make something out of those mistakes.
Especially when you're working on a piece where you're one of the characters, it seems absolutely critical to have plenty of distance from your product, so it doesn't turn into diary mush. Of course, sometimes you want the immediacy of emotion that being in the midst of a story provides, but it's a difficult beast to tame. I'm still learning to get that distance as I work on pieces that have short deadlines, but editing this long-deadline piece gave me easy access to critical distance. I really recommend trying this for anyone who's new to first-person writing.
It's a work in progress, so I'd love to get feedback about how to re-work it. Mostly I'm concerned about the setup and intro of the piece, so let me know if you have ideas. I'll be lurking in the "talk" section of transom.
Tech Notes
The interview
was recorded with an AT-835b shotgun mic and a Sharp
MD-722 minidisk recorder. The narration was recorded
with a Shure SM-7 mic and all audio was loaded into
a G4 mac using the Tascam US-428 USB interface. A pro
Sony minidisk deck with digital outs was used to get
an all-digital transfer from minidisk to Tascam to computer.
The piece was edited and mixed in Pro Tools Free with
no processing aside from basic mixing and cutting. Once
it was finished, the piece was converted to MP3 format
and Realaudio format using iTunes and Realproducer --
both free programs that can be easily downloaded. Then
everything was emailed to Transom -- and not a single
tape went in the mail. When editing earlier drafts of
the piece, I did the same thing, emailing MP3s of the
different versions to Jay.
About Paul McCarthy
I just graduated from Brown University, where I produced
a story/documentary radio show called Inside Out (http://insideout.bsrlive.com).
I've interned for Lost & Found Sound and This American
Life, and did lots of editing and administrating while
running the radio show at Brown, but I haven't ever
done much producing, to tell you the truth. I'm starting
to step out the door into the independent freelancer
world, but it's cold out there.
Support for this work provided by the

with funding from the
and
The National Endowment for the Arts
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