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Close Listening: An Email from David Schulman
Posted by: Brendan Greeley on October 25, 2005 01:55 AM | Comments (3)
David Schulman, he of the Third Coast Award-winning Musicians in Their Own Words just wrote an email, asking if could add to the blog. The answer to him, as it is to everyone, is YES. From David:
One of the real gifts of this year's festival were the new "close listening" sessions — BYOT breakouts where small groups of producers each got to play up to 5 minutes of tape, and then heard a few minutes of live feedback from the group. Sessions were deftly led by Martin Spinelli and by The Kitchen Sisters, Davia Nelson and Nikki Silva.
Not only was the tape often, very, very strong, but the response of moderators and other producers was like the very best kind of editorial feedback — imaginative, empathetic, fair, creative, decisive. Often, these sessions offered more than what even the best editor could provide — it was a live audience response, too, and the format meant that you could hear and feel immediately whether a comment or suggestion rang true for the whole room, or drew a more mixed response.
At a session moderated by the Kitchen Sisters, Ann Heppermann and Kara Oehler [ed. That there on the right is a steppin' out Kara, a very fuzzy Ann and Chris Turpin]played two versions of a beautiful work-in-progress. Ann and Kara's intimate and soundrich piece involved a woman recounting her memory of the first song she remembered hearing as a child — an old Irish-American tune her father would sing with his carousing buddies. But the first mix didn't quite deal with a lurking and important question about her mother and father's relationship. The second mix added a very brief comment — I could be mangling this whole story, but I think the added tape was 5 seconds or less. This short additional comment was just enough to address the problems in the relationship, deepening the realness and honesty of the piece without turning the story away from its focus, as Ann and Kara had worried it might. The response of Nikki, Davia and the full group was instantaneous — no question. That goes in.
At other times, the response could be more mixed — a reminder how subjective these things can be. Yet even when people were divided on what would be the right way forward, the differences were themselves constructive. The pattern of discussion often made it crisply distinct what specifics merited attention, or if a larger, structural changes would improve things.
Participants in the close listening sessions included daily news reporters, audio artists/composers, producers of soundrich documentaries of many styles and aesthetics, impressive veterans and extravagantly talented newcomers. This sort of range range meant that each piece was met with with a deep reservoir of resources. Sometimes the discussion quickly went to questions of storytelling and narrative and interviewing. But this was also a safe space to ask, 'can this tape be saved?' — and get an authoritative Rx for EQ.
Maybe it's because the nature of the medium means we so seldom get to feel the responsive energy of our listeners, but, whatever the reason, there was a palpable energy to "close listening" — the sessions provided a rare and wonderful chance to talk about our work (and work-in-progress) with such a generous, and creative group of people who really get it. I hope this will inspire us to try this kind of thing more often — and not just when Third Coast makes it happen for us, but also in small producer gatherings wherever we live.
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Posted by: Brendan Greeley on October 25, 2005 01:55 AM | Comments (3)
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David you couldn't be more right! My only regret is that my listening session wasn't earlier in the conference, as it would have been nice to chat more with the excellent producers I met there. (And thanks, by the way, for being so kind on the train to the airport when I was completely exhausted and drooling on my backpack.)
I'd say the close listening session was one of the most valuable moments of the whole festival. There is such a diversity of work out there!
Posted by: Rene Gutel on October 25, 2005 09:41 PM
hey david,
thanks for sharing thoughts about the close listening sessions. they were sort of an experiment this year, and are something i'd like to grow a bit for next year. you attended a 'byoTape' session, but there were also a couple curated close listening sessions, meant to present long listening experiences followed by discussions led by moderators. we'll keep working on both for the 06 conference, for sure...
someone pointed out to me that she was surprised to hear less tape over the weekend than she thought she would. there wasn't enough listening. i didn't get to really sit through enough sessions to agree or disagree, (what do the rest of you think?) but this did prompt me to start thinking that an early goal for next year will be to try to provide more and deeper listening experiences, and to facilitate discussions about them.
i've been so lucky to attend the IFC (international features conference) the past few years and experience each time a veritable 'listening boot camp' which has grown my appreciation greatly for the extended listening in a group setting, followed by discussion. (though yes! it's exhausting!) we're talking 25 minute excerpts of 45 minute pieces most often, five times a day, with discussions following soon after the listening. five days in a row. this has been unspeakably valuable to me as a maker, listener and curator of radio, and has opened my ears to new ways of listening, my brain to new ways of thinking about what i've heard, and my mouth to expressing these thoughts even with new vocabularies. all of this i would love to bring to third coast, to share with attendees.
i wonder about timing though...we have such a limited amount of time to try to accomplish so much (as opposed to the IFC which spans five days...) would folks prefer to spend longer chunks of time listening, or have the options of the mediated / presented / moderated breakouts and general sessions which tackle specific subjects and issues? obviously it's not logistically an either/or scenario, because we can easily schedule more listening throughout the weekend alongside the sessions...(we're already thinking of a single room that plays features straight through, without any presenters, on a continuous loop) but i guess i'd like to get a sense / am curious to know what those who have attended would say? and just as importantly...what would you want to listen to? classics? your peers' work? youth work? i know, the obvious answer is: all of it. but what's especially compelling??
ok, forgive the rambling and excessive use of the question mark. i'm just back from watching the white sox claim GREATNESS and my ears are still ringing from the car honks and fireworks going off on every block as i pedaled home. this is one happy city...
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